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Apple Leadership Hong Kong - panel discussion

(The "quotes" here are my paraphrasing of actual responses)


"Most of the schools here are international, fee charging. How do you democratise educational change?"

John Couch (Apple VP Ed): "iTunes gives access to content"

Greg Whitby (CEO Parrammata diocese, Australia): "ripple effect by spending that money we do have on teacher ed" Adds: "we have never spent so much money and yet have flatlining results. Too much waste. Let's be honest and admit that there is something wrong"

Stephen Heppell: 'Everything other than education has decreased in price. Is it the traditional, bricks and mortar schooling the reason?. Last century, we built things that did stuff to people. This century we do this together. We change the model to change price, thence access:

Vivien: "combination of online and other creative ways of doing stuff can overcome $ problems"

"Isn't technology used as a bolt-on, especially with external exams? Can we still have external exams in 21C?"

South Island guy: "Bolt-on technology doesn't work, and many schools introduce tech before they're ready. If you are ready, then it isn't a bolt-on and 1:1 is a natural progression. Assessment needs redesign"

Richard: "if schools are light footed they can try stuff and change if it doesn't work. If we have external exams or not is irrelevant - we can't change that. Adapt"

Stephen: "Criterion referencing is a prison and has led to a generation of coasting children"

John Couch: "Maine's research over the last 8 years. Tech not as substitution, but lead to transformation. Re-iterate that state tests don;t test what we want to measure"

Vivien: "every nation wants to move, but are foundering on teachers who have been trained in the "old ways" and external assessment. Researching Digital portfolios as assessment vehicle"

Stephen: "Latest technology is built on trust. Kids doing a binary comparison of others' work gives a better result than triple marking"

Greg: "Latest move to report on teachers' performance. Authorities specify attendance as mandated and achievement optional should be reversed"

Dan (Apple, Ed Denver): "Culture of learning is most important in schools"

"What do you think about distance vs traditional as a learning experience?

Stephen: " Facebook is a model, multiple choice online is a disaster. Face to face can be daunting, kids have developed an "in between space" where sms messages are not necessarily replied to immediately (or at all in my case!) Notschool.org example."

Vivien: "Michigan requires each kid to take an online course to graduate. Probably financial, but it's there.

John: " Clayton Christiansen, "Disrupting class"

Dan: "Online is often a delivery method not a true learning experience"

John: "Penn State teaching class Facebook this year. Students were taking $7k blackboard data and moving it to Facebook anyway"

"How do you strike a balance between openness and restricted network/computer use"

Richard: "Must involve parents in the process"

Greg: "Build robust teams: mininum of 4 people to a team in schools so that decisions are not made in ignorance or are unsupported."

Island guy: "don't tighten, loosen and concentrate on values.

Stephen: " the most dangerous thing you can do is to lock everything down. Draws comparison to water safety: you don't keep kids away from water until they're `6 and then throw them in. In rooms that are technology rich, put mirrors on the walls. Doesn't know any school who has a successful AUP that hasn't been done with kids. His PHd student has discovered that closure of internet is the best predictor of future failure. Should be in his phone blog"